I agree with kingdom advancer. Another question, if it really is referring to hell, is if God is lovingly protecting us from things when we are in hell...He *may* be there, but...Okay, now I'm just confusing myself. :P Good question, though! I guess it probably depends on translations of Bibles. What is this one that you were using?
Ok, couple things to say. I agree, is this even talking of hell? But I'm thinking maybe God is present in hell, in a different way, his wrath. Because that is the place where he punishes the sin of those who don't accept forgiveness from Christ. I was using KJV, but I am pretty sure it's in the NIV too. I had been wondering about that verse before,until I read "Out of the Comfort Zone" (by Ray Comfort) that I started thinking that maybe God is present in hell. As far as I know the Bible only refers to hell as the lake of fire. Not eternal seperation from God. But if you have a verse to prove it is seperation, tell me. Allegra, thanks for the encouragement, I noticed you linked my blog a little while ago when my bro was visiting, I'll link yours. =D
P.s If you can find that book, read it...it is super, one of my favorite books, you will never get bored of it. You can't put it down. It's about an open-air preacher who tells the REAL way to evangilize.
The ESV uses the word "Sheol" instead of hell. My dad told me that when Sheol is used in the Bible, it is sometimes referring to hell, and sometimes referring to just death. I'm not quite sure which one is meant in this verse, though. It's kind of difficult to understand...
The word hell doesn't exist in the old testament. The word in this verse is Sheol. Sheol refers to where everyone goes when they die. It's the netherworld, basically.
Abraham went to sheol, David went to sheol, Jesus went to sheol when he died (before he rose). In the NT, the Greek word hades is used instead of sheol, just as the LXX had translated it. In the story of the rich man and Lazarus, there was a division in sheol between the good part and the bad part. A few NT verses seem to indicate that Jesus emptied the paradise portion of sheol when he went there, leading the inhabitants to heaven. If this is the case, then the bad section of sheol/hades is the only inhabited section left.
Okay, here goes, I talked to my dad about this verse. He said that the word Sheol is used in the greek, he thought it meant death, like you guys said. He is going to show me later.
My dad actually said Sheol doesn't mean hell. And BTW the NIV says depths, not hell. My dad also said the KJV translates Sheol many times as hell, grave and a few other ones I think. Allegra: Which of your blogs do you want me to link? I know you have three...
Yeah, I think Sheol is also translated as death...
Umm...I don't care which blog you want to link to. However, my health blog is probably not the greatest, since I don't have much control over it...Take your pick! :)
It's been 20 years since I entered into the World, currently I'm attending a trade school. I like to do a lot of stuff which include, Computer Generation, Growing in Christ, music and fellowshiping with people (especially with food!)
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The question that comes before that is: is this really referring to hell?
I agree with kingdom advancer. Another question, if it really is referring to hell, is if God is lovingly protecting us from things when we are in hell...He *may* be there, but...Okay, now I'm just confusing myself. :P Good question, though! I guess it probably depends on translations of Bibles. What is this one that you were using?
I like your blog. It's very impressive.
Ok, couple things to say. I agree, is this even talking of hell? But I'm thinking maybe God is present in hell, in a different way, his wrath. Because that is the place where he punishes the sin of those who don't accept forgiveness from Christ. I was using KJV, but I am pretty sure it's in the NIV too. I had been wondering about that verse before,until I read "Out of the Comfort Zone" (by Ray Comfort) that I started thinking that maybe God is present in hell. As far as I know the Bible only refers to hell as the lake of fire. Not eternal seperation from God. But if you have a verse to prove it is seperation, tell me.
Allegra, thanks for the encouragement, I noticed you linked my blog a little while ago when my bro was visiting, I'll link yours. =D
P.s If you can find that book, read it...it is super, one of my favorite books, you will never get bored of it. You can't put it down. It's about an open-air preacher who tells the REAL way to evangilize.
The ESV uses the word "Sheol" instead of hell. My dad told me that when Sheol is used in the Bible, it is sometimes referring to hell, and sometimes referring to just death. I'm not quite sure which one is meant in this verse, though. It's kind of difficult to understand...
The word hell doesn't exist in the old testament. The word in this verse is Sheol. Sheol refers to where everyone goes when they die. It's the netherworld, basically.
Abraham went to sheol, David went to sheol, Jesus went to sheol when he died (before he rose). In the NT, the Greek word hades is used instead of sheol, just as the LXX had translated it. In the story of the rich man and Lazarus, there was a division in sheol between the good part and the bad part. A few NT verses seem to indicate that Jesus emptied the paradise portion of sheol when he went there, leading the inhabitants to heaven. If this is the case, then the bad section of sheol/hades is the only inhabited section left.
Okay, here goes, I talked to my dad about this verse. He said that the word Sheol is used in the greek, he thought it meant death, like you guys said. He is going to show me later.
Great, Keith! I'm impressed with the fact that you're provoking thought. Keep it up! I'm going to *try* to do the same as well.
Thanks for the inspiration! Oh, and the book sounds very interesting. Thanks for being willing to link to my blog.
God bless!
My dad actually said Sheol doesn't mean hell. And BTW the NIV says depths, not hell. My dad also said the KJV translates Sheol many times as hell, grave and a few other ones I think.
Allegra: Which of your blogs do you want me to link? I know you have three...
Yeah, I think Sheol is also translated as death...
Umm...I don't care which blog you want to link to. However, my health blog is probably not the greatest, since I don't have much control over it...Take your pick! :)
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